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A New Sith, or Revenge of the Hope

Reconsidering Star Wars IV in the light of I-III

[I originally wrote this piece in 2005 and a friend posted it on his website. That site has recently gone down, so I'm reposting it here, as it still gets a lot of interest.]

If we accept all the Star Wars films as the same canon (as it seems we must) then a lot that happens in the original films has to be reinterpreted in the light of the prequels. As we now know, the rebel Alliance was founded by Yoda, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Bail Organa. What can readily be deduced is that their first recruit, who soon became their top field agent, was R2-D2.
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Mar. 16th, 2013 03:46 am (UTC)
A friend pointed me to this post and I think it is really great.

It made me go back and watch IV again. I'm amazed that at the end all the rebel troops turn when Chewie growls something, and start to clap after he does it again.
It does look like he's giving the orders...
Jun. 3rd, 2013 03:15 pm (UTC)
R2 legs
But unfortunately for R2, the Jawas needed additional persuasion in order to take him to Lars Owen. R2 wasn't carrying money, so, with great reluctance in his metal heart, he instructed them to remove and keep the stupid jet boosters on his legs as payment.


This blog is so awesome... love the Tom Bombadil entry too.
Jun. 4th, 2013 01:57 am (UTC)
this made me rewatch Sith... and I had already watched today... and a few days ago too.
I've been rewriting stories since I was ten. Star Wars has always offered the most food for thought. I totally dig on R2D-spy. However, I think Chewbacca's role is more coincidental. Hell, he never met Obi-Wan or R2 in Sith so he has no real previous connection to either. Yoda is getting high on Dagobah fumes so there's no point in assuming a reunion with him. I think it's safe to say his fight to save his own planet was the only effort he exerted to assist the rebellion at its formation. From then on, he's for himself (and then to Han to whom he owes his life).
Pretty good anyway. Thoughtful and OBVIOUSLY thought-provoking. Look at the responses. lol

But I don't particularly give much credence to any explanation between the original trilogy and the prequels. All I really care about is seeing the missing story between Sith and A New Hope. Vader must have fought on the front lines as the Emperor's fabled dark knight (we get a nod to this in the Apprentice games); I personally feel we honestly didn't see enough of Vader in action post-cybernetics.
Aug. 31st, 2013 01:14 am (UTC)
Re: this made me rewatch Sith... and I had already watched today... and a few days ago too.
At first i didnt buy the Chewbacca part. But then i recalled what you brought up about his appearance in Episode III. Chewbacca is seen managing battles and chilling with Yoda. Wookies dont just get to hang out with Yoda. In fact in all the movies the only people Yoda is seen with are other Jedis or Clone soldiers. And in Episode II he is directing the top clones to manage the battle.

This suggests very strongly that Chewbacca isnt just your average wookie soldier. He must be one of the top soldiers on his planet. Therefore, it is not far fetched to believe that Yoda/Obi Wan/and Organa would recruit him to become a spy in their network. Yoda would no doubt remember Chewbacca, after all, it is Chewbacca that takes Yoda to safety after his attempted assassination by the Clones.

The R2D2 bit in this is flawless.

As to the whole Canon/Chewbacca was a slave stuff. If you put any stock into the novels or comic books, then you are mistaken. The commenter above that showed the quote from Lucas about the two universes shatters your Star Wars world view. There is no canon, except the movies. Therefore these theories work.

Sep. 5th, 2013 05:02 pm (UTC)
Great Perspective!
Me and the guys in my office just read this - great perspective!
Sep. 17th, 2013 05:42 am (UTC)
Missing Links
One of the things that has always bugged me between the two trilogies is that Leia states that she KNEW her real mother and remembered her. She tells Luke she was kind but sad. Luke states he has no memory of her, most likely because he was shipped off to an Outer planet while Leia and her family stayed protected in the arms of the Rebellion. Yet in Revenge of the Sith, Amidala dies giving birth to her children. How did Leia know her mother? I've read one of the books and it suggested she had some use of the Force, so I feel its unlikely she was brainwashed or have memories implanted in her, so it seemed a major incongruency that she knew her mother as a young child but her mother died when she was born.
Oct. 20th, 2013 04:30 am (UTC)
Back in the late 70's-right after A New Hope came out there was a radio broadcastthat started the saga about a day before the movie timeline. At first I thought it was something fans put together however later in the 80's it was published as official. It was like the movie unedited. It talked about R2D2 being a repair droid and such. Then movie stuff then extras again when the Jawas were at the Lars's ranch and how R2D2 fiddled with a droid that uncle o chose. This was long before any EU books games or even the ( gasp) Internet. My point is there was and will always be new thoughts ideas and speculation concerning the saga. It is a truely great idea and FUN brought to life on the screen. ART. So #1- don't go saying someone is wrong because they don't agree with your views. If you don't like it don't read or follow it. #2- the only one who knows what is canon is the originator of the story. Don't assume you know or speak for him. #3-this is a story. Its not real. SiFi. I like it a lot. I watch it often. I even had a set of SW sheets but come on and grow up. #4- please write more. This was the best piece of lit I have read about a movie in a long time. Keep the saga alive. Look forward to the final 3 movies. When the first movie came out I took my brother to it and I told him Lucas was going to make 9 movies and that one day we would be able to watch them at home on our own TVs. I said that when we were leaving the movie. I sm still waiting and watching after 40 years. So when something like this comes out by a true fan applaud it.
Oct. 28th, 2013 01:56 pm (UTC)
Star wars IV
This made my day, sounds very plausible.
Dec. 21st, 2013 09:54 pm (UTC)
You, sir, are the greatest nerd who ever lived.

Do the Cthulhu mythos next!
Feb. 9th, 2014 11:58 pm (UTC)
Lucas' thought
Sorry to say this, but lucas himself have said that whe luke and leia kissed in Star Wars 5, he had not thought about them being related. At all
Feb. 10th, 2014 06:33 pm (UTC)
It's amazing how intelligent you make Lucas' writing seem.
Mar. 15th, 2014 06:35 pm (UTC)
Starkiller and the Founding of the Rebel Alliance
George Lucas actually gave cannon status to one video game and one game alone. Force Unleashed 1. This was a huge deal because even the novels and all other games are considered expanded universe and not 'G-cannon'. So this game has to be taken into account with the six films.
Marcus Douglas
Mar. 18th, 2014 08:50 pm (UTC)
Absolutely Brilliant
This should be required reading for everyone who has seen Star Wars.
Mar. 29th, 2014 10:28 pm (UTC)
This is amazing
Thank you for this! Superb!
Apr. 23rd, 2014 05:21 am (UTC)
Just so you know, Tatooine is misspelled "Tattoine" a couple of times.

Anyway, this is a pretty interesting theory. I think that it could work even if it was altered a bit to include the Expanded Universe explanations of the backstories of Han, Chewbacca, Lando, and the Falcon. In the Millennium Falcon novel by James Luceno, it is explained that the Falcon was called the Stellar Envoy during Episode III and that it was piloted by Tobb Jadak and Reeze Duurman at that time.
May. 17th, 2014 02:50 am (UTC)
Some truly select blog posts on this web site , saved to fav. facdekekdfdefgab
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