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(This is another of my speculative pieces and nothing to do with Star Wars. This one is for an older trilogy.)


Old Tom Bombadil. Possibly the least liked character in The Lord of the Rings. A childish figure so disliked by fans of the book that few object to his absence from all adaptations of the story. And yet, there is another way of looking at Bombadil, based only on what appears in the book itself, that paints a very different picture of this figure of fun.

What do we know about Tom Bombadil? He is fat and jolly and smiles all the time. He is friendly and gregarious and always ready to help travellers in distress.

Except that none of that can possibly be true.

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synergyfox
Jan. 8th, 2012 04:52 am (UTC)
I love this interpretation and the speculations brought forth.
goobermunch
Jan. 8th, 2012 08:22 pm (UTC)
Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name.
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(Anonymous)
Jan. 9th, 2012 03:29 am (UTC)
Interesting interpretation, but I doubt it....
Your interpretation is interesting, but I think you're forgetting a very important piece of Tolkien's Lore:

According to the Ainulindalë there was NO discord or darkness in Aman or Valinor before Melkor corrupted the song of creation. This completely rules out any possibility of Tom being some forgotten evil force. If darkness and evil were the doing of Melkor during the song of creation, that means Tom would have had to be created BY Melkor and he is NOT "Oldest and Fatherless." However if Tom was a dark or evil presence that existed before the creation of the world, then that would mean the song of creation itself was dissonant and corrupted BEFORE Melkor came along, which directly conflicts with Tolkien himself.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 10th, 2012 02:01 pm (UTC)
Fantastic final paragraph
Brilliant image.
calimac
Jan. 11th, 2012 12:31 am (UTC)
Thank you for this glimpse into the works of that alternative-world author "Tolkein", whoever that might be.
dalegardener
Jan. 11th, 2012 06:14 pm (UTC)
That's some really interesting and enjoyable speculation there. :-)
groovesinorbit
Jan. 11th, 2012 09:00 pm (UTC)
I'm another fan of Bombadil (sent here through a friend), but I love your speculation, too. Nicely done.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 17th, 2012 02:56 am (UTC)
Trickster
Or he could be Tolkien's take on that timeless mytheme, the "trickster" god. The Norse call him Loki and the Romans Pan. He goes by hundreds of names among the Hindus. Many of the features of the Christian devil as represented from the Middle Ages onward derive from this pre-Christian motif. Amoral, fun-loving, and occasionally malevolent, the "trickster" tends to associate with dark deities and is (as with Pan) often linked with nature and worshiped in groves.
elisson1
Jan. 17th, 2012 03:52 am (UTC)
Tom
Tom Bombadildo?

Me, I liked old Tom about as much as I liked Jar Jar Binks... which is to say, "not so much."
(Anonymous)
Jan. 17th, 2012 10:59 am (UTC)
Another interpretation. . .
That's not too different from my own interpretation, but it arrives at a different conclusion. For perspective, it's necessary to remember who Gandalf was and that both Gandalf and Aragorn knew who Bombadil was. Gandalf was a Maia, the same race as the Balrog and Sauron. My own conclusion is that Bombadil was Ea, the father of the Valar, the only one in the stories including "The Silmarrilion" who could be considered 'eldest and fatherless.' Once Gandalf's task of ridding Middle Earth of Sauron was done, Bombadil is who he reported to.
(Anonymous)
May. 31st, 2012 07:24 am (UTC)
Re: Another interpretation. . .
You have another brilliant theory going right there! :)
(Anonymous)
Jan. 19th, 2012 11:48 pm (UTC)
Wow
And again wow. Very enjoyable reading, thanks.

Chris
skreidle
Jan. 30th, 2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
Might want to edit to re-spell "Tolkien" a time or three. :)
km_515
Feb. 5th, 2012 09:25 am (UTC)
Good point. Fixed now.
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km_515
Feb. 5th, 2012 10:17 am (UTC)
Many thanks for all the kind comments. And even for the not so kind ones.

As I said "Do I think that Tolkien planned things in this way? Not at all, but I find it an interesting speculation." The oddity, ambiguity and interest of Tom Bombadil as a character comes in part from the way that Tolkien wove him into the story before he had a complete idea of what the structure of Lord of the Rings was going to be. As it turns out, the Bombadil sequence became a sideline to the main story that was never revisited or explained. Yet Tolkien clearly liked the character too much to edit him out, so we are left with an element of mystery and a field for multiple speculations.

And to those whose comments have been in limbo for many weeks while I forgot to unscreen anonymous comments, my apologies. All non-spam comments have now been restored and I'll be checking up on a much more regular basis from now on.
(Anonymous)
Feb. 9th, 2012 11:36 pm (UTC)
Bombadil was awesome
This is an AMAZING article, but I have to disagree with you on two counts, first, almost everyone I know loves Tom Bombadil, he is one of my favorite characters. Second, Bombadil is not the only master of the forest, there is also Old Man Willow, an evil influence , unlike in Sauron's realm where he is the only real influence. In short though, this was an amazing article!
(Anonymous)
Mar. 12th, 2012 03:24 pm (UTC)
This is fantastic! ... but wrong.
Fantastic! ... but wrong. He is Ilúvatar. Thought it was obvious—oldest and fatherless. He is Tolkien's embodiment of his creation god on Middle-earth. Neither good nor evil, nor particularly concerned with the dangers and strife of years or even ages. Kingdoms will rise and fall. Good will win. Evil will win. It will all just keep happening again and and again—small consequence in the life of a world... or at least that's how I read it. And by the way, neither am I qualified to make this assertion nor am I terribly attached to my conviction—I just really enjoy the atmosphere of Tolkien and wild speculation. Good stuff. Thanks for this.
(Anonymous)
May. 31st, 2012 06:31 am (UTC)
Re: This is fantastic! ... but wrong.
Tolkien did comment several times saying directly that Bombadil was NOT the embodiment of his version of God, so I'm not sure that's the right impression to take from it.

Likewise, to the original post, Tolkien's penchant for idealizing nature and all the is associated with it seems to run counter to your theories. The forest is not "evil" in any way; rather, it has been attacked repeatedly by the sentient beings of the world, and is defending itself from intrusion and potential damage - animalistic and primal, perhaps, but not evil.

That said, Bombadil represents many things in different ways - he is a relic of LoTR's origins as a direct sequel to The Hobbit (i.e. a children's book), he is an intentionally ambiguous character to add the bit of mystery Tolkien felt was necessary for good storytelling, and, as many have already written, he was partially the embodiment of nature and of certain mythologies' notions of natural spirits. My personal interpretation is that, in addition to all of that, he was the means of balancing the complicated and practical (and scary and dangerous) real world with simple, innocent pacifism and love. He does save the hobbits, and then the hobbits essentially save him. That seems like's Tolkien's way of telling us that as dangerous as the world is, we need sometimes to return to simplicity and happiness and not just worry and struggle all the time; but, at the same time, that we should also be mindful of the real world and not forget that sometimes we need to work to make things better. The two points check each other and balance each other out; neither the realism of the war nor the naivete of Bombadil could have survived in isolation.

My two cents, at least.
livejournal
May. 16th, 2012 05:15 am (UTC)
Link Drawer, "Is the name of my Castlevania tag appropriate here or not?" edition
User indigozeal referenced to your post from Link Drawer, "Is the name of my Castlevania tag appropriate here or not?" edition saying: [...] Yeah, that stuff about Tom Bombadil doesn't add up, does it? [...]
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 04:38 am (UTC)
My friend, this is brilliant.
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 05:35 am (UTC)
So much knowledge, learning and good thought but . . .
It is "Middle-earth" not "Middle Earth". Who cares? Well, the author J.R.R. Tolkien for one.
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 07:13 am (UTC)
Meh...

You're assuming that the forest being dangerous means it's also evil... instead of you know, just being nature, which is dangerous by default.

And it's implied that the ring didn't affect him because he didn't want anything more then he had, not really a trait of an evil person (and considering Gandalf's reaction to the ring he'd have to be a Valar to resist it outright, and that's just an assumption on ym part as i odn't recall anything canon about the effect of the ring on one).

(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 07:22 am (UTC)
Well that ruins the book
Well that kind of ruins the book for me. I already saw the movies, and wanted to read the book, but I didn't finish it, I only got a ways past the Bombadil part, when I stopped, to read the Hobbit, but I didn't continue, although I planned to. Now my entire outlook on the book has changed, knowing that their whole journey was all part of the plan of evil mastermind Bombadil. That part freaks me out now, knowing that notorious figure waits in the forest, so close to the Shire, just waiting for the war to end so he can dominate Middle Earth.
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 08:36 am (UTC)
Lovely!
"Dark Lord Bombadil" has a wonderful ring to it. Goldberyy as the harsh, ice-cold Galadriel that appears momentarily to Frodo in Lorien. The nitpickers commenting above need to simply enjoy your well written flight of fancy. Kneel before the malevolent might of Bombadil!
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 11:29 am (UTC)
Does Tom have anything to do with the Entwives
Is is possible that Tom has had anything to do with the Entwives? How were they lost? Did Tom's forest consume/kill them? I'm pretty interested in that too!

Apart from that - Awesome post. I think I believe you! :)
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 03:09 pm (UTC)
some problems with this theory
For one, he has met hobbits. This is seen in n The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, a series of poems by tolken. In this same book he can be seen fighting Old man willow, and barrow wights. Srry. Info is from wikipedia BTW. please double check!
(Anonymous)
May. 30th, 2012 03:15 pm (UTC)
This could explain a lot
How Middle Earth became modern England and what happened to the Hobbits. Is there a historical analogue to the free-to-rampage Bombadil?
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